Michael Thelen ([info]saganist) wrote,
@ 2008-04-05 21:47:00
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Entry tags:scrabble, zyzzyva

Diving into Collins
Just a warning, the Scrabble content of this blog will probably be very Collins-heavy for a while. You've been warned!

After spending about a month and a half working on a new Zyzzyva version specifically to help me study Collins, I finally started studying in earnest last night. I forgot what it feels like to learn 2s and 3s! There are only 23 Collins-only 2s and 277 Collins-only 3s, but going through them makes me feel kind of like a dunce because... well, they're 2s and 3s, and I don't know them. It's also exciting, and I'm looking forward to playing some of these monsters like CH#, AUA#, TWP#, and ZHO#.

Speaking of which, last night I played my first Collins game ever, against Quackle. I missed a 50-point ZHO#, playing ZEE instead, and Quackle immediately hooked it to make MZEE#. OMGWTFBBQ!? How wicked is that? I was proud of myself because I did make a few Quackle-best plays with Collins words, like HOA#/EH/IO#/LA, GODWIT/TE#, and BLAG#/AMI/GOY. But I missed the best spot for a bingo with ?EKNOPS because I forgot about EE#, and missed a few more best plays due to OWL board vision. It will take a little while for my brain to adjust. Not to mention I have to learn the words before that can happen.

As I was studying last night, I noticed a lot of Collins 3s that for some reason I always think are good in OWL, or always see even though I know they're no good. CUZ#, DOH#, GON#, HOH#, JAP#, NAS#, NAT#, SOG#, SUD#, TID#, TIX#... all good. Even EMO# is good. And it has an anagram! I started wondering whether I'll be able to remember which of these are Collins-only, especially since I already get confused on some of them.

As a result, I added a function to Zyzzyva today which forces you to type lexicon symbols along with words when taking a quiz (by default, this behavior is turned off). For example, "NAS" would be considered an invalid quiz response, but "NAS#" with the octothorpe would be considered valid. Already I'm finding this useful, as it forces me to remember which words are Collins-only, as an integral part of the quiz. There are a few more features I plan to implement before releasing a new version in a month or two, but if people want to get their hands on this right away, I may be able to put together a development release. I think it might be a good idea to start doing that anyway, just so people can try out bleeding-edge features and give me feedback before I create an official release.

So, it begins. I haven't even looked at anything more than 2s, 3s, and a few stem 7s, and I'm already excited. There's a lot of cool stuff in here, and it should be fun to start digging it out.



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[info]xpmorgan
2008-04-06 07:03 am UTC (link)
it sounds useful. i just hope you're not fishing for the # tile so you can play NAS#. that only works in deviant dream scrabble (usually against me).

xp

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[info]chaithedog
2008-04-06 07:20 am UTC (link)
'Negative three; the blank is an octothorpe...'

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Why?
[info]jasonkb
2008-04-06 09:59 am UTC (link)
Also, you all keep misspelling octothorp :-) (OCTOTHORPIC#)

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Re: Why?
[info]saganist
2008-04-06 03:18 pm UTC (link)
Weird! I didn't know OCTOTHORP# was good but not octothorpe. But Googlefight shows octothorpe as a 3-to-1 winner! :-) I spell it that way because of the etymology relating to Jim Thorpe.

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Re: Why?
[info]getofftheoven
2008-04-06 05:58 pm UTC (link)
One more nit - OCTOTHORP is ours.

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Re: Why?
[info]saganist
2008-04-06 06:13 pm UTC (link)
Oh yeah, thanks for pointing that out. I think I'm starting to assume nothing is good in OWL2 anymore. :-)

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Re: Why?
[info]saganist
2008-04-06 03:23 pm UTC (link)
Oh, wait, I thought your "Why?" was about the octothorpe thing, so I didn't answer the question. I'm studying Collins for the Texas Sowpods Challenge coming up in June. And because I've heard that playing with Collins is a lot of fun, and I wanted to find out for myself. And eventually I'd like to make it to a worlds. And because I've been an advocate of a single unified English-language Scrabble dictionary for a while, and if one reason for sticking with OWL2 is "lack of grassroots support" for Collins, then it's time I put my money where my mouth is.

So... lots of reasons, but mostly because of the Texas Sowpods thing at the moment.

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Re: Why?
[info]getofftheoven
2008-04-06 03:44 pm UTC (link)
Welcome to the dark side, and yes, I'd be quite interested in getting my hands on the feature that makes you type the octothorps in quizzes.

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[info]crosstables
2008-04-06 12:50 pm UTC (link)
Yay, another person who will get confused when playing OWL2! ;-)

Hey... what words are in VolostCollins!?!


OCD: VOLOSTCOLLINS# (probably)

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